The Responsibility of MRA’s for a recent man-killer.

Regarding a Facebook link posted by an aquaintence.

Ben, you don’t know the first thing about the men’s rights movement, nor this madman’s non-relationship with it, or you’d be capable of contributing something other than the usual nonsense spouted by ignorant men who haven’t read anything written by any men’s rights advocate. This latest loon frequented a website called PUAhate, known for advocating AGAINST so-called pick-up artist websites, which are men’s advocates who almost universally advise men to avoid deep emotional expectations for women, since it tends to lead toward exactly the kind of obsessive and dangerous behavior just witnessed in S. CA.

Also, since we’re talking about misogyny, would you please explain the gender disparity of the body count, why he started stabbing his male roommates first, how one of three shooting deaths is male, why he promised to kill all sexually active MEN, and several other things that don’t make a lick of sense for somebody motivated by misogyny? Can you tell me which pro-PUA websites he frequented, or which MRA’s he quotes? Miss Valenti sure didn’t in the article you linked.

While we’re discussing this article you linked, how about you explain Miss Valenti’s assertion that, ” Rodger, like most young American men, was taught that he was entitled to sex and female attention.” Is this how you were taught to think? Do you support her assessment of American men? Do you want to paint your fellow countrymen with that libel? What about me? Do you think that’s the approach that’s got me through 20 years marriage, or a daughter set for college? Exactly how much longer must we all endure such bologna in place of truth?

Also, have you done the basic homework to ferret out from media reports his family’s anti-gun background, or his hatred for his brother, or his subscription to The Young Turks (not a conservative misogynist bastion, that bunch). Was he reading RooshV? Return of Kings? Was he a lurker at Chateau Heartiste? Did he have Paul Elam on speed-dial? Did he subscribe to YouTube’s “GirlWritesWhat” or Amazing Atheist (a well-known anti-feminist) or Redonkulous? Was he reading MGTOW websites? Gosh, in tens of pages of biographical info, does he say anything about even Rush Limbaugh or Glenn Beck? ‘Cause if he doesn’t what’s your f’ing EVIDENCE for this claim that MRA’s have anything to do with this tragedy? Have you even skimmed his written statement for any of his thoughts?

No, sir, I don’t think so. To use the MRA’s jargon, the man was “blue-pill” all the way. He believed his race, his money, or his superficial appearance mattered, when any MRA/PUA/MGTOW website of any note will repeatedly proclaim all that means nothing. He hated successful men, when every MRA/PUA/MGTOW advocates observation and emulation. He blamed others for his problems – especially men – when nearly every MRA/PUA/MGTOW utterance is about personal responsibility, no matter the social and cultural barriers to success.

If only he’d contacted some branch of the men’s rights movement, then maybe somebody could have helped him learn how to interact with women successfully and in terms he could comprehend, maybe he’d have got laid, and maybe nobody would have died. If only.

But that’s not what happened. Instead he found PUAhate.

So, go ahead, Ben, start an MRA hate group. Let’s see what that gets us. Just keep that shit away from my son, ’cause I’d rather he loved people, especially fellow men, and didn’t stab his roommates as preamble to a killing spree.

2 responses to “The Responsibility of MRA’s for a recent man-killer.

  1. I’ve seen comments on sites lamenting the fact that MGTOWs and MRAs are getting too much air time as a result of the Men’s Rights attacks. HILARIOUS! I’ve been having a field day(s) on many sites splaining what MGTOW is to the masses! IT HAS BEEN TOO MUCH FUN!
    Nothing would freak feminists out more than MGTOW becoming an accepted way of life for a good percentage of men. We don’t tow the gynocracy’s gynocentric line, which is what feminists call misogyny. Feminists HATE MGTOW – WHICH IS HILARIOUS! WHY? CAUSE MGTOW DON’T GIVE A RAT’S ASS ABOUT WOMEN – WHICH IS IRONIC PERFECTION!
    “MGTOW – Men Going Their Own Way – is a statement of self-ownership, where the modern man preserves and protects his own sovereignty above all else. It is the manifestation of one word: “No”. Ejecting silly preconceptions and cultural definitions of what a “man” is. Looking to no one else for social cues. Refusing to bow, serve and kneel for the opportunity to be treated like a disposable utility. And, living according to his own best interests in a world which would rather he didn’t.”

    • Many MGTOW forget is that men generally ignored the opinions of women until the 20th century. Little they advocate is novel. What MGTOW ultimately want is a return to ancient evolved human social norms: gangs of men and women who agree to support a gang that has no obligation to support men and women who won’t join that gang. The last 100 years is a great experiment in giving women what they want: guaranteed provisioning without gang affiliation. [You may object to the word “gang,” but I think it provides a stark contrast to alternative words.]

      I suspect that the centuries-spanning result of that social and evolutionary engineering attempt will be a rejection of such notions as gender equity among humanity for all time. Contemporary women do not realize the danger they pose to the freedom of the next few generations of women and girls as the pendulum swings back well past equity before finally coming to rest at the equity required for species propagation.

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